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The Attack of the 40 foot Gaming Mouse |
| August 31st, 2007 |
An interesting comment appeared on the ShackNews forum yesterday that read, “Microsoft and Logitech really need to get their shit together, they seem to be getting too caught up in having the most features and not really making a solid gaming mouse in my opinion. It’s not like they are far off, they just are going a bit too far really I think.”
Man! Does this writer get us or what? Bling, gimmicks and gizmos won’t make you a better gamer. There are only three critical areas worth mentioning here … form, function and performance.
The Razer Lachesis 3G Laser Sensor is the mainstay for mouse performance. We at Razer were not satisfied with either the first or second generation of laser sensors. High DPI is one thing but high speed, or the Inches Per Second (IPS) is REALLY another. This is the metric that defines how fast you can move or swipe a mouse. Most casual gamers look at 4000DPI and are blown away but unless that mouse has sufficient IPS (inches per second) movement, in the long run you won’t be satisfied with its performance. The truly hardcore gamers would have picked out that the core performance improvement of the Razer 3G Laser Sensor is the phenomenal jump in IPS over the 1G or 2G sensors.
We’ve spent years and millions of dollars to stay ahead in the technology curve as well as countless hours with progamers and casual gamers alike to develop the latest in gaming technology and the 3G Laser Sensor is the culmination of this.
While no one mouse design can fit every playing style and hand size it is absolutely crucial that it be comfortable, lightweight and (reasonably) easy to adapt to. Along these lines Razer does not believe in design tricks or as another forum contributor to GotFrag preview of a new mouse from one of our competitors commented “this mouse def wins gimmicks per square inch”.
Ergonomics for gaming is one of the areas that we’ve pioneered over the years and we created the baselines for the “claw” and “palm” grip formats and have matched them with the appropriate gaming sensors and even placement of mousefeet.
At Razer we are dedicated to performance, in all of our products, and any feature that does not provide optimal results has no place on one of our mice. In fact, the Razer Lachesis is pretty much a “no gimmick” mouse – just a great gaming mouse with the latest cutting edge technology.
This year, you’ll see gaming mice with lights all over them – we’re a little embarrassed to say we started this trend of ambient and cool lighting on the gaming mouse, though the pretenders to the throne have kind of taken it to an extreme – we’re glad that the aesthetics of our mice still remain true to our core principles – bling has no place in our products.
Since this seems to be the year of the gaming mouse, where everyone and their grandmamma have decided to get on the bandwagon and offer their version to you the avid gamer, it is important to know exactly what you are spending your hard earned money on.
Not all gaming mice are created equal. No and far from it. Most gaming mice are no more than products available to any manufacturer created by a third-party OEM (original equipment manufacturer). These mice are made from virtually two to three-year old technologies that carry the logo and corporate colors of any company that can afford to purchase them. These are not even close to what we are offering in the 3G optical engine of the Razer DeathAdder or the 3G laser engine of the Razer Lachesis.
Razer develops all its own products and technologies based on user needs and demands for increased performance. Razer does not utilize third-party OEM suppliers for mice and we spend millions of dollars every year on research and development of new and advanced gaming products. Many of the features you see today like On-the-Fly Sensitivity, Always-On, On-board Memory Profiles, were all pioneered by Razer and we’ll continue to pioneer many others. Sometimes we even suspect our competitors wait for our products to be released just so they can copy it the next year.
Ten years ago when we decided to create gaming mice we knew that there was no room for another copycat or me-too maker of mice. Logi and Microsoft owned the home/office mouse and keyboard business and were really good at what they developed. There was no opportunity for Razer to succeed without creating our own unique niche and I believe that history has proven this decision as correct.
Today as I view the gaming hardware business there are a lot of companies that have watched Razer’s success and the amazing growth of gaming and want cash in on this growing market. They have decided to gain this share of market with mirrors by using older and somewhat antiquated technology (most of which was originally pioneered by Razer). Odd that these companies have showed up when they feel they can cash in on gaming….where were they before there was money in the market? This really shows where their priorities are and how they view gamers. Just check out some of their specs on the packaging – some of them literally lift our copywriting off our specs and paste it on their boxes.
Competition is good and I wish them much luck. Competition makes us better and we work harder to remain far ahead of the pack. In order to do this we will continue to push the envelop of technology and stay away from gizmos, glitz and gimmicks. We have long ago committed ourselves to meaningful advancements in performance that have a direct effect on gamer’s enjoyment within their favorite games.
Over the next few years we can anticipate that there will be a fallout of many of the so-called gaming mice companies you see today. This is an interesting time to be involved in gaming hardware from both a player and a hardware developer standpoint. We are on the brink of many new and advanced technologies that will completely change the way we interface with our computers. Razer is strongly positioned to be the leader and compete at a high level. Hopefully I will be able to talk more about this topic in 2008 and beyond.
Cheers and thanks for all your support.
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September 1st, 2007 at 1:35 am
Yes! I spend a lot of my Time with the Razer products and i will buy the latest if she comes!
Thanks for the best mice’s i ever played with!
greetings Fre(e)quenzy
September 1st, 2007 at 7:58 am
You don’t have to prove that to me. I agree……. Looked at the G9 the other day, just looking at it made my mind up.
September 1st, 2007 at 8:25 pm
Everything that you’ve posted so far I enforce to the fullest. As a gamer, I will tell you in short form that Razer’s products have changed the way I play. From their mice to headphones it’s done everything it says on the box. They don’t sell gimics folks when it comes to there products. They work hard with the average gamer to provide what best suits his or her needs. In short form if you’re naturally a good player using razer’s mice will not only enhance your gameplay slightly but be a reliable source of hardware to use against your oponents in the battlefield. They give us the precision we need with enough fancy stuff to feel that our product is cool enough to use while pwning with it :). I’m not paid in anyway to say what I’ve said, I truely say this from my heart. My team is unkindgaming dot com just to get an idea of what type of poster is vouching here.
September 2nd, 2007 at 11:28 am
I have used Razer products ever since the Boomslang first hit the market. I’ve owned both generations of Boomslangs, and most ever other type of mouse that has come out since then. Currently I use a Diamondback. I’m looking forward to not only having a Lachesis but also getting a limited edition Boomslang that is optical. I use the Tarantula keyboard, and Razer headphones as well, and of course the eXactmat. I’m very satisfied with Razer’s products and as a hardcore gamer will continue to support whatever comes down the line in the future. These guys have been provided nothing but quality.
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
I have to say that RAZER gear is the BEST of gaming gear. From the mice to the mouse pads. From the sound card to the Head phones. I have never used a better mouse or better Keyboard. I use the Tarantula and a copperhead. I love the products and I will continue to be a avid RAZER user. I will be gettin the Lacheisis and the speakers when they hit the market. Sadly though I must say I have found a Keyboard that I think is better (at least for me) than the Tarantula. I would love it if some one from RAZER would get in contact with me so I can tell em what Keyboard I am speaking of in hopes that maybe RAZER would make one better. Keep up the good work RAZER!
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:46 pm
come on, your products rock, i mean, i worked for a long time with microsofts “ambot” and i just bought the Deathadder , i thought about the lachesis, however the two bottons on the top, somehow convinced me otherwise, plus the deathadder was right handed anatomical ^.^ i just loved it!
horray for you…
Deathadder + Razer speed Mantis = The MACE!
September 4th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Please, for the love of god, release a Diamond Back or Copperhead shaped mouse with the cover style of the DA/Lachesis (continuous shell/buttons, and sexy silky smooth all over).
That’s about the only thing that I can see Razer doing better than they already are
September 4th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Razer is the best in high gaming mice and shall remain lets.. get the facts clear microsoft and logitech haven’t created anything unique yet nothing of theirs is pioneered they are just leeching off of you thank you for providing us with your great products i will remain buying till ever
-Regards, Karim
September 6th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
Razer products are the top of the of the line cream of the crop kind of quality gear. Microsoft is a computer company who think they have good mice because of features when preformance is what you need. Logitech makes headsets, joysticks and other computer devices but there mice are horrible I played with my friends mx518 (logitech) and I couldn’t stand how hard to scroll it was where the dpi up and down you are needed to take ur finger off the fire key and click it with my razer copperhead I just push a bit with my thumb.
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I own many razer products I got Razer Copperhead, Razer Mantis Speed and Control, Razer Barricuta Gaming Headphones and the Razer Tarantula Gaming Keyboard.
(hopefuly soon ill get me one of those Lachesis
- Ryan Grenier
September 8th, 2007 at 11:12 am
Now, you talk a lot about no gimmicks and bling-bling, but still I personally feel your designs are rather one-sided:
- Black rubberish surface
- A glowing razer logo
- A glowing scrollwheel
- The curvy mouse1 and mouse2 buttons.
By doing this, you are making choises for people.
I don’t want a rubberish surface, I want it completely smooth. Am I the only one? Take one guess as to why the outdated Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical 1.1 SPECIAL EDITION still goes for 150$ on ebay.
Blingbling can be defined in several ways, though I honestly feel a glowing logo is far too much. And the glowing scroolwheel just adds to it. Ever looked at your Razer DeathAdder, when your computer wasn’t turned on? Yeah that’s right, then the mouse doesn’t look near as good without all the fancy light.
As you say, the field of gaming-mice has progressed sooo much, so why the heck don’t I see any mouse companies making a really expensive (yes, there are always people willing to pay a lot, for something they use A LOT), really extraordinary, and really stylish mouse.
People want quality, not something that yells plastic in their face, before they even take the product out of the box. The average age of gamers isn’t 14 as one might think. Adults, grownups, people who care about design, and not just want something flashy and fancy.
You have made some of the greatest sensors ever, even though you had a reputation that was ruined by the copperhead. The 3G infrared is by far the best I have ever tried, but why do I find myself using a 6 year old Microsoft IME 3.0 Alienware SpaceBlack then?
The feeling. The touch. The look.
Let it be said, this is pure constructive criticism.
You have made an outstanding mouse, in terms of sensors. Now it’s time to reconsider the billions of different ways of design, at which I honestly want to say you fail. No disrepect.
September 11th, 2007 at 7:30 am
@daerid: You are looking for a Diamondback-shaped mouse with the cover style of the DA? Diamondback-3G is the way to go! Check http://www.razerzone.com/db3g/
@Lars: The rubberish surface basically is kinda smooth. It doesn’t really feel like rubber. I really like how it feels. When I was still using the Diamondback I loved how the mouse buttons felt, but I didn’t like the shell, because it felt uncomfortable when my hand got warm and I started to sweat (and I don’t sweat much). So I was looking for a Spray which could make the same surface like the mouse buttons… but then the Deathadder was announced and I knew: Thats the way to go. And I am really satisfied with the way this mouse feels and performances. I think that it is the best mouse up to date, followed by the not so bad either Diamondback, IE 3.0 and MX518. Though sometimes when I play with my Diamondback at an old PC, I like how easy and precise you can move this mouse because of its size and weight. And I think that I am able to play even a bit better than with the Deathadder but I kinda dislike the ergonomics (if feels awkward compared to the Deathadder). Maybe the Lachesis will close this gap between small/light and comfortable. Let’s see how this 3G Laser performs… I hope a lot, but I am also still sceptical. I couldn’t believe it when Razer/Microsoft announced the Habu. I was really critizising Razer for putting again such a damn Laser sensor into this mouse. But it was a good step that they released the Deathadder, though it was still a really useless step to release the Habu. But OK, thats a different story.
I think with their “one-sided” designs they want to define their own Razer-Look, and I think they succeeded with it. The next thing is that they give the users options, with mice that have the same design, though different shapes. People can choose the mouse which fits their needs rather than having to choose a newer mouse because the other one looks out-dated. I think Razer is trying to keep their older mice still in the race, while for example Logitech released MX500, then MX518 which suggests you: Your MX500 is old and bad compared to the new MX518. The same went on with the G5. Now they release the G9 and so on.
But fact is that I like the design… It looks simple and minimalistic… but that adds to the style, I think. Lights are a different thing… but still I think Razer has done it better than their Competition with more flashing lights in all possible and impossible colours which _really_ looks ugly.
September 13th, 2007 at 3:32 am
Razer! FTW! only the best can win and the best is here =D… GO RAZER GO!!!
September 13th, 2007 at 4:12 pm
I’m an engineering student who reviews hardware for the only Indian gaming magazine. Having tested the Razer product line-up from Copperhead to Tarantula, I must say that anyone with an engineering slant and an eye for clever design will swear by Razer gear.
Razer’s greatest strength lies in its deep understanding of gamers and channelling that insight into its products in the form of engineering and design ingenuity. Even though Razer products may sound similar to the competition on the spec sheet, they come out tops in real world performance. A definitive sign of sound engineering. The Razer Tarantula that was sent to me for review this issue stands testimony to Razer’s ability to deliver better performance based purely on design. Here’s an excerpt from my Tarantula review that pretty much sums it up:
“Having used a vast range of Razer gear, it’s easy to tell what makes them tick. It’s not just technological superiority that sets them apart. Take the example of gaming mice where everyone, from the lowly Genius to Logitech and Razer, employs exact same components. However, Razer design is optimised with clever use of technology while its competitors focus more on cramming their products with gizmos. What you have here is perfect synergy between design and technology that ensures better performance even when the products look no different than the competitors on the spec sheet.”
September 14th, 2007 at 8:52 am
Hi,
I already bought the diamondback mouse and this mouse was incredible!! As soon as possible I’ll buy the Razer Lachesis. Great work guys!!
September 14th, 2007 at 9:21 am
i got a razer baracudda and mantis speed they simply improved my game simply
September 14th, 2007 at 11:02 am
omg lawl at: Lars Holm
Wtf: have u ever seen it wen ur pc is off…..omg noob why turn of pc keep it on.
what kind of gamer are u….-_-’ so stop wining plix
September 15th, 2007 at 7:46 am
I got a mantis speed mouse pad from my tiberium war game. I haven’t got Razor mouse yet. I will get it next year once i got my new PC set up and I hope i can get the latest product from you guys. Keep up with the work!
September 15th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
I wil allways stay true to razer even if my old diamonback stoped working after a year(but who cares i just loves my copperhead that i bought insted :D)
The others companys and try to get it right but razer is allready there.. keep upp the good work
September 16th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Before I get flamed, let me say I do own a Razor Exact mat, and love it to death…with that being said. Yeah..logitech not having their shit together? I beg to differ…My G5 will always…ALWAYS be better than any razor product if they keep their same goofy ass design scheme going. The Razor mouse is NOT at all comfortable…I have large hands, and I still feel it is too wide, and the little rubber thing on the side is uncomfortable as hell. And not about bling? please! your mice have always been about looks (not saying you aren’t about preformance, that they do have), so at least admit that you have bling and design in mind when you talk. All your LEDs can’t save your uncomfortable mice…microsoft mice do suck, and I haven’t used one for years, but the G5 beats out anything you have right now…yes I’ve tried your products, I have friends with them, used em at booths and quakecon, and I cannot bring myself to use such an uncomfortable product. Make it so I can hold the damn thing for more than 10 minutes, then we can talk about purchasing something
September 16th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
I’ve recently purchased a Diamonback mouse. My old mouse was a little laptop mouse that would get many laughs at LAN parties when the boys would try to use it, but not be able to even hold it because their hands were too big.
Eventually I started to feel the same. The small size of the mouse was starting to add to the pain I always have in my wrists, and the mouse was just starting to show the signs of age. It was definately time to change.
My youngeer, more gaming-orientated brother already had a Razer Diamondback. I wanted a good, comfortable mouse, and testing his it seemed to be exactly what I was looking for. And I must admit, I also liked the glowing lights. But that’s women for you - as much attracted by looks as by substance!
From the moment I first grasped my Diamondback in my hand, I knew I’d made the right decision. Considering I mostly play RPGs, and haven’t been in the field of gaming for a long time, I can’t exactly give a qualified analysis of the performance of the Diamondback. But I will say this - it has eased up the strain on my wrist, and it is very comfortable to hold. The texture of the keys makes it very easy to keep a grip. The size and smooth usage of the scroll button is definately an improvement over most mouses that have passed under my hand. And even I can somewhat feel the glide of the mouse as I move it across the screen!
Thank you for creating such a beautiful mouse! Hopefully the two of us will share countless hours of happy gaming for years to come.
September 17th, 2007 at 1:41 am
I have a huge bone to pick with Razer, Logitech, and Microsoft (and any other mouse manufacturer), and what seems to me a logical solution. Here’s it is, by the numbers (and letters):
1. Perceived Problem: Nobody in this business seems to care about perfecting ergonomics. Yes, it’s a complicated issue–hands come in all sorts of shapes and sizes–but after over two decades of building mice, it’s blatantly apparent that nobody has any sense of direction. We can see that lack of purpose perfectly with the big three companies that I just mentioned and their latest product announcements (the Logitech G9, the Microsoft Sidewinder, and the Razer Lachesis). Since this is the Razer site, here’s my quick take:
a) Razer released the DeathAdder late last year–a mouse with a solid, but not spectacular (relatively speaking) infared sensor and the most refined physical design of any mouse ever created. If Razer was smart, they would’ve built a DeathAdder 2.0–a mouse with the original outer casing, the newer laser sensor, and perhaps dedicated sensitivity adjustment controls (why has nobody ever considered putting a graduated slider underneath the thumb buttons?).
Instead, they threw out the excellent DeathAdder design for this bulbous and apparently ambidextrous (which makes nobody happy, unless you’re building a small “flick”-type mouse) oddity whose only attraction is better internals.
2. Suggested Solution: Using the automobile industry as a guide, create a limited number of mice whose form factors are targeted at specific types of users. Focus on having a consistent, constantly improving lineup. Create modular components that can be recycled for use across your products (like an economy-class sensor for users on a budget, and a über sensor for the pros).
Steve Jobs realized that one of the things that was killing Apple was a similar case of random product overload that resulted in a plethora of half-assed products. At one of the keynotes (I’m probably going back 5-10 years here), he drew up a little 2×2 grid with “Consumer” and “Pro” labels on the columns, and “Mobile” and “Desktop” on the rows. The resulting lineup–the MacBook (consumer mobile), iMac (consumer desktop), MacBook Pro (pro mobile), and Mac Pro (pro desktop) is as easy for a consumer to understand as it is for Apple to consistently improve.
Bryan Clodfelter
Senior Hardware Editor
InsideMacGames.com
September 17th, 2007 at 2:10 am
Alright, after reading every single comments here, it’s time to write my own one. There’s just so much to say about it that sorry if it’s not in any kind of order.
I’ve got my first computer when I was 12 years old, in 2000. Since then, I had a Yahoo Ball Mouse, then a Logitech Optical Mouse “wireless”, Logitech MX700, Logitech MX1000 and finaly after all this crap, I moved onto a wired mouse but not any… a Razer Copperhead it was! It was one of a huge improvement. So were my Razer eXactMat vs generic cloth pads. However I will never buy any metal pads again now that I know what it does. Yes it looks really cool but it’s expensive, hard to carry around and worst of all… it wears out your mouse feets (Tefflon) extremly quickly. I could almost no more move my MX1000 mouse on it because within 1-2 years of daily use, it totaly ruined the feets. It started to do the same with my Copperhead “Blue Tempest” but slower because the tefflon from Razer is of higher quality. After using that Copperhead for a year, the left mouse button started to jam all the time for no reason at all so I asked Razer for a replacement through my warrenty. They were even kind enough to exchange it for a “Green Chaos” one lol. They also sent back the mouse very quickly from New-York to Montreal. I think it only took 2 days but I was kind of piss off to pay 20$ of shipping just to send my mouse there (borders fee I guess) after having paid 80$ for the mouse. I finaly sold it as well as my eXactmat to some guy in Ontario through this great forum http://www.RedFlagDeals.com. With the money I made on this, I pre-ordered a Razer Lachesis at the same time as my friend that I converted myself to the “Razer Club”, haha. I was about the buy the Diamonback3G since it was pretty much the same mouse as my Copperhead but without the very annoying sidebands and with a much better tracking engine, even though I never had problems with the laser sensor of the Copperhead. That was also one hell of a deal for only 43$Can but once I saw the Lachesis, I changed idea althrough the “two time more expensive” price was kind of hard to swallow.
Ah by the way, why the hell Razer didn’t do the Lachesis in green?!? Afterall, Razer logos and all that stuff is bright green and it would even fit better with my Razer Mantis “Speed” so I really don’t understand the decision Razer took on this. Also nothing unless pink could have been uglier than a white light on a mouse… seriously.
Now I’ll give my opinion on a few Razer products. I see no reason at all why would Razer still be selling the old Diamondback when you could get the new one with the 3G sensor and better shape, for the SAME price. The Razer Krait is like the “nowhere” mouse of the clan. I ain’t gonna trust the (Better suited for RTS/RPG) until I get to try it in my own hand as the shape looks pretty much like the others and considering it’s quite “high” price, I would rather get something like the Diamondback3G for just a few bucks more to have a much better mouse. By the way, I have the Razer Armadillo and it’s quite nice but really not worth 20$. It’s just a ******* weight! Almost like a rock but more stylish and yet it’s half the price of a good Razer mouse. 15$ would be much better suited.
Razer’s soundcard looked to be one of the most promising new product. However for some strange reasons, we barrely heard about it, like if the hype died before the product got released. I personnaly think that it was because you could get for ~100$ instead of 180$, a soundcard that sounds almost as good, support EAX up to 5.0 instead of 2.0, that is much easier to find in retail stores… I named the Soundblaster X-Fi XtremeMusic (now XtremeGamer). It’s the card I own at the moment. My next one will be the Auzentech X-Fi Prelude 7.1 which will beat everything but will be at the same price of the Barracuda AC-1, 180$, so Razer might want to lower their price to at least 150$?
When the “Razer-Guy” was talking about OEM products being the same but sold under a diffrent logo, he is 100% right as we often see this. However I highly suspect Razer to have done the same with their Tantacula’s keyboard. If I remember well, there was a Microsoft keyboard with the SAME SAME shape that existed before the Tantacula exist. Maybe it doesn’t have all that “glowing” stuff but I’m pretty sure it’s at least not ridiculously highly priced. Also, I’ll only trust that “Hyperesponse™” thing for a keyboard once I’ll be able to touch it with my own fingers and yes being at 1000Hz/1ms does something for a mouse but I’m spectical about a keyboard. Anyhow, even if it will be better, it’s really not worth 100$ to me and I personnaly find the look of it being ugly versus my favorite keyboard which is the Saitek Eclipse 1 that can be found at only 45$. Also it’s too big for nothing. Most people never use those useless extra keys on the side like those on the Logitech G11 which are a waste of space and I hate the design of the keys around the area of the (Home, Del, End, Arrows, Right CTRL…). It’s like on the old keyboard of my sister, heh.
Razer Mako looks extremly promising because they’ll be unique. Might not be the best look but I never seen or neither heard round speakers. However there’s no way I’ll pay 300$ for a 2.1!!! I would rather get the Logitech Z-5500 5.1 for that price. How about Razer do a set of 5.1 (or even 7.1)?
The last thing I’d like to complain about is AVAILABILITY. Even though Razer’s products are among the bests, they are still virtualy non-existant in every single local store in my Quebec and since that provice is part of Canada, I wouldn’t be suprise if it’s the same elsewhere. So the only place where I can get Razer products, it’s by online stores and as you know, you always gotta add the price of the shipping to the item you buy and that’s quite annoying… but at least online stores are usualy always cheaper so it ends up being pretty much the same. However it’s still quite more expensive on Razer’s own store, than elsewhere on places I won’t say.
With that being said, I’ll conclude by saying that Razer products aren’t perfect… but they are the company which is the closest of being perfect so I’ll always stay loyal to them.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:42 am
I think ultimately the idea is not about which mice is better, which mice isn’t.
I still have my Logitech Intellimouse (the ones with rollers on it) and it works fine.
But lemme tell you what works better.
The Razer Mantis Speed Mat. Its just marvelous
I haven’t got a Control Mat so I could cut it into half and merge both control and speed together for full control, but I think Razer’s done a pretty cool job on their products.
I got my Krait somewhere around last October when I first joined World of Warcraft.
Maybe I’m the kind of guy that doesn’t improve much (given the fact that I’m just a so-so gamer), but Krait literally wins over most of the mices that I’ve ever had. Then I had a taste of Copperhead, and I felt “hell no way, I think I’ll need to switch”. Just like that. There’s a stellar improvement over it. I haven’t got a taste of Lachesis, but we’ll see.
I think my transition to Krait was worth it. Its easier, better, and it feels great. Lachesis’s coming, and I’ll see if I can get it (the pricing here in Malaysia is very expensive).
Hey, at least I beat off most of my competitors with my amateurish skill. At least I know I’ve got no “hey the mouse doesn’t move the way i want it to!” excuse anymore =P
September 17th, 2007 at 5:01 am
Couple of words Pre-ordered
September 17th, 2007 at 6:16 am
I currently own 2 Razer mice and 1 razer keyboard (well the reclusa as its better for left handers as its not missing a button next to the arrow keys). The reason? Razer is the only company that thinks of left handers by having ambidextrous mice for gamers.
So Razer, could we lefties please have: a dedicated left handed mouse and a ambidextrous/left handed joystick (currently only saitek offers an ambridestrous/left handed joystick, the evo force, and the design is old)?
September 17th, 2007 at 6:23 am
Razer for the win!
September 17th, 2007 at 7:16 am
The Razer is the best mice what I ever use. The most confortable buttoms and they right glue to my fingers. The 1600 it is enough for me, but i would like to try an 3G mice with 2000dpi
A constant custumer from Hungary.
Daniel Nagy
September 17th, 2007 at 7:48 am
Im satisfied with my razor products. I have a diamondback and a friend of mine has adeathadder.
Im thinking on buying the Lachesis, but here on Brasil the mice and other products comes with a very high price =/
September 17th, 2007 at 8:41 am
Well, like all Razer mice, this one has a spindly little fragile cord attached to it that provides your consumer with a ticking time-bomb to determine the lifespan of their mouse. Will it last 3 months? 6 months? Could it possibly last a year? It’ll make a year if all you play is Solitaire.
Look people, you’re designing mice for FPS gamers, you just spent 10 minutes spewing about how you design mice for FPS gamers and “how fast you can swipe your mouse” is so important, yet you consistently design mice that have cord related failures time and time again. You have been designing these mice with fragile cords since their inception. You charge more than anyone else for mice and you design them to fail in a ridiculously short time. Don’t worry though, you’ve apparently got the sheeple sold on your cock and bull stories. Even with the reality staring them in the face they’ll keep buying the lies. It’s basically the same method used to elect and re-elect Presidents so you’re following a sound principle… keep up the good work.
September 17th, 2007 at 9:06 am
I personally would like to thank you guys for everything you have done over the years. I’ve been watching you guys since I was too young to afford a Boomslang.. and now I have a beautiful/functional Copperhead and Tarantula glowing in my room. [If I hadn’t bought that damn Medusa 5.1 before the Barracuda came out, I’d have that too.] As a long term user of microsoft/logitech products, I can personally say that I’ve found a huge increase in performance with my switch to Razer. I’ve read those awful GotFrag reviews that seem to be quite sponsored. I’ve read about Microsoft’s latest attempt at owning the gaming market. I refuse to buy into their 400dpi “gaming-mice.” Though of course DPI isn’t everything in the end, I couldn’t possibly go under 2000 anymore for any use, whether my gaming or my full time graphic design. I recently finally broke the wire on my Copperhead, and couldn’t be more happy with the very fast support I received almost two years after I bought the product. I couldn’t believe you guys were willing to ship me another one for free! The little details like this will keep me pushing for you guys as you expand as a company. When I make it to CAL-I & CEVO-P, I’ll let you guys know
September 17th, 2007 at 9:18 am
I had g5 mouse. After that, 2month ago i bought Razer Mantis mouse pad. is was perfect on g5 mouse. 1 month ago i buy Razer Diamondback, and do you wanna hear compare between G5 and Razer?
G5 OWNS RAZER MOUSE. Razer mouses are all about looks. 10€ was actualy mouse worth, other 40€ payed was look of a mouse.
And you know what?
This Diamondback light, …IT IS KILLING MY EYES AT NOGJT, it is to strong.
Side buttons are wrong, i keep pressing them during game, left and right mouse buttons are to big.
Laser is poor, sometimes i cant even click on something how poor is it.
Logitec is the read trademark, razer is jusr rubbish.
And this snake tags, they sux, like some demons crap.
Oh yea, and 1 last stuff. your drivers sux..
razer 1/10
September 17th, 2007 at 9:22 am
Looks awesome, looks promising. Reminds me of DeathAdder but these two extra buttons on top are absolutely the way to go. Now I just hope that it will support constant input from side buttons if they are constantly pressed cause my game/gaming stile relies on that. Very good also for left handed support.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:51 am
I totally agree. I’ve used over probably a hundred different mice, and the only way I can get even close to the same performance I get with a Razer mouse is by over clocking my other mice, which includes lag spikes in mouse performance, and sudden drops im IPS. TY razer for making such amazing mice. It might be awhile before I buy the new mouse (i still have a copperhead, and I’m currently workign on a pooling driver or program to up it’s DPI by a bit), but the new mouse with 4000 DPI deffinatly is tempting. Will there be a new gaming keyboard in the works? Probably not. The tarantuala is perfect. I jsut iwsh it were easier to program the hotkeys and use them on the side. For an MMORPG they’re great, but for an oddity like Gunz: The Duel online, well it’s kinda hard to use em.
September 17th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
I have to say, I didn’t think there were any differences between mice until I purchased my present mouse and mousepad from Razer. My first reaction was completely blown away, the mouse still offers no resistance when using it and is incredibly responsive. In all honesty having a true performance gaming mouse has changed how I play FPS and improved my performance in them. On closed, close in maps the boost is the greatest because my response time is cut down by the mouse to the point where I can 4 out of 5 times get the first hit and kill an opponent before they can even get a bead on me. A higher DPI sensor allows me to move my hand less when aiming and turning, further reducing my reaction time without loosing resolution to having to ramp up the game’s mouse sensitivity. After owning a Razer mouse, I don’t think I’ll ever use another mouse again, in fact, I’m considering buying a Lachesis to replace my Copperhead, just so I could carry the later with me to use when I’m either on my laptop or using a school computer. I see other “gaming mice” as gimmicky because their manufactures are trying to get an edge in a market against a company that created the market. The only company that is even close is Logitec.
September 17th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
I love my diamondback, have to say its the best mouse I have ever purchased. Smooth surface for easy cleaning, warm to the touch for those cold winter nights. The bundled application needs one thing for me to use it (mapping button 6 to backspace), but the mouse is almost perfection.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
I’m not sure if you’ve gone crazy or if you’re serious. You don’t go for “bling”? I guess you can say that since you are right considering there really is no glitz to any razer mouse(save for the see through cases I suppose and lights on the scroll wheel/grip.)
But the design of almost all mice you all make is really, really uncomfortable. I go through mice more than I’d like to admit and yes I’ve tried each mouse razer has to offer. The only decent mouse razer has made is the DeathAdder and unfortunately I had to return 2 of them after about 2 weeks of usage(each) because of them dying.
I’m also glad you really like the Tarantula but having used it(also having returned it due to keys dying after a week…) I can’t say I feel the same, from the replacement icon keys to the battle dock, the entire thing is a gimmick. Although it was nice to type on, the fact the wrist rest wasn’t removable hurt anyone without a huge desk and the profiles never auto switching regarding of OS being used was quite a turn off.
But let’s get dirty shall we. The entire way you design mice is a way of saying to the consumer, “Look, we’re different. Try us, show us off.” Which in and of itself is a gimmick, because everyone will admit you have great laser hardware, but they also will admit you have extremely uncomfortable mice.
Want performance without gimmicks or bling? Remove all the lights/leds and add adjustable weights, offer(or better yet include) a replacement shell with a different texture feeling that doesn’t void a warranty(seriously, wtf.)
Better yet, just make your mice freaking work. Everyone I know has returned at the very least 2 razer mice, most for a replacement, some for an alternative product.
It’s gotta be costing you guys money with all these replacements you gotta do, whether you want to admit you ship alot of defective products or not the truth exists you do.
In closing, I’d rather have one of your competitors products in their “gimmicky” gloriousness and also have a product that works and works for a long time.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:33 pm
well, here’s mine. 1st of all, im asian(indonesia). i once own green copperhead, and a eXactMat and tried the diamondback.
the diamondback quite fit on my hand, but after just 5 minutes, it strains my hands.
the copperhead, though it looks very very cool (looks like a fashion mouse, than a gaming mouse), it strains me more than the diamondback. my conclusion is the bottom part of that 2 mouse is too deep. i cant grip it the right way like i want it.
the button clicks are ok, but the side rails are horrible. they suck. it makes you so hard to grip your mouse. the wires? they suck too, make the new the one a bit muscles and strenght to it.
for the exactmat, it wears out of any mouse feet very very quickly. even my copperhead doesnt last a year with it.
what i want to explain is, for asian, razer is not too comfortable. coz lots my friends all over from asia have the same issue with all of that at above. try to do some more research not just in europe, american globe. do the asian globe too.
anyway, im planning to buy razer mantis mousepad, i like it. i just like it.
overall, razer is great, but simply it’s not the best in the market for gaming equipment.
best regards. wishing all the best for razer.
September 18th, 2007 at 8:45 am
I must say my razer copperhead isn’t as pretty as some of those mice out there but It beats them no questions and scores me cool points when ppl see it. If only the tarantula could fit in my desk I’d have the ultimate pairing
September 18th, 2007 at 11:30 am
Just a general comment on this website.
Try and have a little more pride in your products.
Dark theme goes just so far and then its a pig in a poke.
Pictures that clearly show your products attributes would really be an improvement on this website
September 18th, 2007 at 6:47 pm
A lot of you have complaints about Razer products. To my understanding Razer makes products that are suitable for professional gaming use. Professional gamers seem to like Razer products. How many of you are professional gamers? I thought so. I’m not one either. I think Razer sells products to a very small and complex market. From my knowledge professional gamers grip and move their mouses in ways that casual gamers do not. In order to be taken seriously Razer must cater to their desires and needs. However, this means that casual gamers may find them too small or big, uncomfortable, too rubbery, ugly and too expensive. It seems that Razer sells to people who care enough about the mouse they use to invest $40-$80 in one but who often want it to feel and perform in a “not-so-pro” manner. Razer could remedy their discontent by introducing a “not-so-pro” line of products that feel, function and look in a way that casual gamers like. This way both the casual gamer needs not trouble him or herself with the form and functionality of the “oh-so-pro” products.
September 19th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Meh, I’m not a fan of Razer mice, or anything Razer for that matter; Everything is way overpriced.
I have a Diamond back right now, I like it, but, with the way things seem to be going, I think it’ll be my last Razer mouse.
September 21st, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Ryan ZX679 -
To my understanding Razer makes products that are suitable for professional gaming use. Professional gamers seem to like Razer products. How many of you are professional gamers? I thought so.
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… Me? Well, was(SC and played with pros in FPS back in Q2/Early Q3A, some in UT2K4, as well as having played with pro MMORPG guilds.) Either way the fact remains razer’s gear is still uncomfortable and full of many unnecessary things on top of missing vital parts and pieces.
I understand what razer is trying to do and I fully support them(otherwise I wouldn’t care and just remain silent.) I’m just saying at the moment they aren’t exactly there imho.
The major complaint I have and I’ll reiterate it, is poor build quality. ex: Mouse feet coming off easily, rubber sides on the copperhead easily damage(to the extent of easily ‘peeling’), products mysteriously dying due to some hardware malfunction, etc. Razer’s technology is great, it’s just put in a somewhat damage prone shell that’s also uncomfortable(DeathAdder excluded, that thing is amazing to grip.)
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:31 am
I’m lookin forward for the new razer mouse the razer lachesis
it looks cool with 4k dpi
but i’m wondering will it have the same problem as razer copperhead and diamondback ?
the mouse keeps disconnect and reconnect
I dont find that the problem is fully fixed since i bought 3 copperheads and all of them are facing the same problem
and the razer lachesis have 4k dpi , even copperhead with 2k dpi have a major problem
will the razer lachesis able to have a steady performance ?
If is gurantee that the razer lachesis wont have the same problem (keep disconnect and reconnect) will be much more appreciated.
I hope the razerguy is able to post up whether the razer lachesis wont have the same problem
September 26th, 2007 at 8:38 am
Razerguy could not be more right. I have found that some release dates get pushed back months at a time for new Razer products. This is simply the fact that they want a quality product, the best out there. Razer may not be the “largest” company or the most widely known but they are truly something special. Their products are months, even years more advanced that the technology produced by… Logitech for example. I own a Copperhead (retired then given to my CS:S teammate and brother), Deathadder, Tarantula keyboard, and ProSolutions Pad. I have said it on numerous occasions and will stand by it until the death of my cyber gaming career; I stick true to Razer. The products that have been developed by Razer have totally changed the way I game. No competitive player should make the ignorant mistake that there are superior gaming peripherals.
Razer to the grave,
Jimmy Watson
[revo] Silent
October 1st, 2007 at 8:44 am
Well Lars alot of people do infact LIKE that design the rubbery feel you seem to dislike helps keep your hand in place weather or not you like or need it I and many other infact want such The glowing just makes the mouse look more livley I like it The only things I can complain about is the Diamondback and Copperheads have real weak clickers.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:03 pm
The latest Logitech mice - the revolution series - raised an eyebrow.
I bought a Razer Boomslang when they were the big thing, unfortunately I never managed to get this thing to adjust the sensitivity as advertized. Even though I couldn’t achieve that, I loved the precision of the mouse. The ergonomics of the Boomslang were horrible, I mean, absolutely dreadful; I always felt discomfort in the wrist after using it for long periods of time.
Of course, Razer has come with some with some innovative products, but I still settled for the G5, which btw has a horrible middle button function. But the ergonomics are great.
Now if the Lachesis has a good comfortable design, and pricing is reasonable, I will get me one. If not, I will wait.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:26 am
All my friends get a little pissed off if they ever have to use my rig, saying I play too high sense and how I am a good awper is beyond them. They all use intelli 3.0 or g7’s and stuff but my razer is really more than I need for sens. It is a diamnodback plasma blue SE, about 2 years old and it is awesome. I like mad fragging in css, where I don’t have to move my arm, just mty wrist, I like switchingbetween 2 mouse mats (speed and control mantis mats) for different guns, I like my barracuda “Make me deaf” headphones, I like the macro keys on my tarantula. The Lachesis looks like it will make a nice addition to my hardware.
Accuracy and speed tyvm.
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:00 am
i am looking into the razer line of gaming mice. i have a G5 at the minute and it’s good for the most part, but perhaps not worth the money i paid, not to mention the sensitivity thing is a mess (changes whenever it feels like it). i’m probably going to buy the deathadder as i want to try 3G sensors but i don’t have money for a lachesis. i’ll never use 4000dpi anyhow
October 7th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
I like that you are not pimping your mice’s like MIcro and Logi (lol micro and logi, sounds a bit like mario and luigi :D) But i wouldn’t say that Micro and Logi is taking a wrong direction. They have taken a new direction, that will seperate Razer from them. And for me that’s a good thing. Variety is good, and as long as razer stays “loyal” i’m totally fine : )
October 14th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
And yet, your new keyboard is bling-bling backlit with silly touch-buttons for audio controls.
Seriously Razerguy. Quit preaching about how you guys are TEH INDIE PURE FUNCTIONALITY AWESOME CUSTOMER RELATIONS when you put out ridiculously marketed crap (Krait for example? it’s not ‘purpose built for MMO’, it’s a budget Diamondback without buttons) and team up with Microsoft to make sup par crap.
Very few of your products are bad.. But frankly, the whole fake image you try to conjure through the ‘cult of razer’ is laughable. Razer either take themselves too seriously.. or not seriously enough.
October 15th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
Please understand that a number of gamers that we used to research for our next keyboard (Lycosa) asked for lighting. It’s not bling when it is used for ambient light along with their monitor and perhaps mouse while gaming. It is the way the majority of our customers want to play their games - it is not unfunctional at all.
The Krait was developed for those players who do not require side buttons or wanted a smaller mouse. It was not a budget Diamondback. The price is less because there are fewer features and less costly to produce. MMO players (in general) do not find their games to be terribly mouse intensive which is why the Krait is recommended.
Thank you for suggesting that I have reached a “preaching” level; perhaps I can use this personally as a recommendation for increased salary benefits.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:10 am
I personally have a Copperhead I’ve been using for over two years and it’s never come close to dying on me. My boyfriend just bought a Krait, and he loves it.
I don’t get what’s the problem with grip. I’ve used tiny laptop mice to the copperhead and I have small hands, but I don’t get why everyone is bothered about gripping the sides. Do you hold your mouse that tightly? Because I don’t have that problem at all - It’s mostly my index and forefinger and my palm that move the mouse. My thumb and last two fingers merely hold it lightly. It’s light and it’s easy to use.
People, stop using the same grip for jacking off that you do for gaming, and then maybe you’ll feel better.
And as for form, I’ve never seen a hotter mouse than my Copperhead.
October 24th, 2007 at 10:06 am
I have the Razer Tarantula, Barracuda Headphones, Diamondback and Copperhead and I have pre-orderd the Lachesis. Razer products are far supperior to anything else that I have owned. I am really looking forward to using my Lachesis. I play a lot of FPS like TF2, Counter Strike, Quake 4, Doom 3 and MMORPG.
I hope Razer keeps up the outstanding work they do and hopefully get us a fix for the microphone on the Barracuda. Sell us a replacement mic like the one that is on your new headset that is coming out. The one that we have is to weak. It barely picks up any sound at all. I am not using the Barracuda sound card I am using the Sound Blaster X-Fi Platnum.
All of you that complain about Razer products be it the ergonomics or the price or the lack of buttons or to many buttons can move on and buy something else. I am proud to use and own Razer products. Keep it up Razer Guy. You have a loyal customer here.
November 3rd, 2007 at 3:26 pm
i have already deathadder and prosolution propad but i am thinking of buying tarantula keyboard…
dad almost killed me when i bought deathadder and propad, i spent 700 HRK thats about 140 $.
i just want to say that razer products rocks and RAZER is the BEST….
sorry for grammar and spelling mistakes…. i am from croatia and i am 14… does anybody want to play CoD 2??? :))) …
November 6th, 2007 at 12:30 am
Im amazed to see some replies from people saying that razer mice fail quickly.
Well, I must have lucked out.
I got my Razer Diamondback and Exact mat before they were even publicly released, at the World cyber games in San Francisco back in 2003(?) And I still use those two products to this day. Nothing has failed. Sure, after 4 years my feat are worn a TINY bit, but other than that, it’s fine! Nothing wrong.
I spend all my time on the computer, I owned a cybercafe for 3 years and was there about 10-12 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Now I’m a web master, but also own a community gaming site, so I still spend all my time on a computer, and playing games. This mouse has surely not disappointed me.
It works, and looks exactly the same as it did 4 years ago.
So, I either lucked out, or the people complaining about thin(?? thin? this is a pretty normally thick wire if you ask me) are spending their free time spinning it around in the air.
Everyone always swears by the G4’s (or g5s??? who cares)
But they are ugly! Bulky, and feel like you are moving a hollow piece of plastic around the table.
Personally, I steer my mouse with just my fingers, my palm doesn’t even touch the mouse.
That would be impossible on a G5 because of its bulkiness.
But OMGWTFBBQ!!! It has weights you can remove!!!
That is the biggest gimmick I have ever seen.
Razer, and RazerGuy,
Continue making the awesome products you do, so I can have a replacement to buy once my Diamond back dies, if it ever dies.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
can i put my 2nd opinion here??
wanna testify about my 4th razer mouse which is the krait.
like i said above earlier, im adding the pro|click v1.6 too, i dont like it..
but the krait??? i love it sooooo muccchhhh….,
dang baby……this small, sleek, sexy, smooth mouse is the best razer mouse i ever had.
love the sensors, awesome…headshots after headshots are just like flowing through my fingers of my palm in CS 1.6…
speechless to say…it’s simply amazing.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
HELP plz…I just need some pointers on setting up World of Warcraft macros on the razer tarantula keyboard. Just some examples or how to would sure help..I can’t seem to get the keyboard to type the correct letters I need. I love the feel of this keyboard and can’t wait to get it set up right.
TY, Gamms
February 15th, 2008 at 11:41 am
who can teach me how to set hotkeys for number pad???is it using macro ??? i juz bought razer lachesis and dunno how to do the setting….
February 26th, 2008 at 5:44 pm